They make "payment", sending the seller a fake PayPal transaction summary. Scammed on Gumtree -- what to do. Our community should always avoid paying for an item before it has been viewed. and through this Covid scammers have more time on there hands to scam others in many other ways No it's not. They got scammed and almost always via known and obvious methods too. It's easier stealing credit card details or a debit card and pin yet requires just as much if not more proof that it was stolen as digital wallets also have a digital trail including log ins and IPs. It is at least equal to bank transfers, credit cards and cash as it can do the same as all three yet is instant and has better scam protection. https://www.apple.com/au/support/products/iphone/, Gumtree is for face to face cash transactions only. I’d prepare for your pending interview next week...’ She replied back ‘ I don’t know what your talking about? This is one of the most sophisticated phishing scams I have ever seen. Inspect the goods, then pay with straight transfers as a gift. It's 2020. Anyone Here Used Hostmate for Web/Email Hosting? The fact is, scams are everywhere and in every method from both the buyers and sellers sides. They "accidentally" pay extra on the fake transaction and demand to be reimbursed. You're the one who sounds incredibly naive. Yet for some reason, the OP just believed the scammer even though no money had arrived in their Paypal and posted the item to the other side of the world thinking they had been paid double what the phone is worth. PayPal Friends & Family is direct debit with bank account only. He is rated fairly well and had other items on sale which all had sold, so I thought he was fairly trustworthy. How is it seller's fault if buyer account was hacked. eBay Support Non Existent for eBay Plus Members, Not sure how efficiently my solar is running. People seem to be completely unaware of the fact that in person to person Paypal transactions, most of the time you are doing a straight transfer without buyer/seller protection which is the same as using cash. Why people jump on Paypal like it's some unsafe method is just such an old mentality and usually due to ignorance of how it works and what it's different uses are. I sure do! Please do tell. There always have been, there always will be. I have a brand-new iPhone 8 to sell, and was going to list it on eBay. PayPal just reverses it then. You may find further information if you can contact them somehow but at the end of the day, I don't like your chances but you can try. ive learnt a lot from everyone and would like to thank you all for helping me understand what needs to happen to prevent anything like this happening again. Zanco sent through an image of a Female US Passport, in which my client replied stating "perhaps an incorrect ID was attached?" If it is really that common….. @burningrage: Cops firstly couldn't care less, secondly the story is the same that they have paid you extra to cover the transit cost. but now this has happened if i ever sell on Gumtree again ill only do cash on pickup, and if its out of state ill make sure the cash has come through Pay-pal before i post anything. And in a way I was a huge moron. Which apparently would of been much worse for a 17 year. My name is Harrison and am now 17 years old with little experience and would love to know if there is something i can do to get my money back. Paypal isn't a credit card company and It's not a bank account. You seem awfully naive, I suggest before telling people how safe something is you go educate yourself. we warned the Usps about what was happening and it still went straight through there fingers. That use to buy a first car at 17 years of age. Whirlpool Forums Addict reference: whrl.pl/ReKJzm. But yes, there are ways to block the phones via software. 06/10/2020. Unfair to pass that on to the seller who had nothing to do with the breach. 😂😂’ I replied ‘ you know what I am talking about.’ I believe it is fairly safe. Legitimate buyers and … Chargebacks using Paypal is a common one and one that can be easily prevented and protected against. If lost or stolen, you'll need to have Find My iPhone enabled on your device at the time it went missing in order to have Apple honor a replacement. Campaigners call for UK and EU bans on plastic 'sample' sachets. Plus baby boom during covid, so many people needing a life lesson in a couple of years, great opportunities! Here is the response from Sue's partner Sally: I was a little confused when I read Sally's email and decided not to reply just yet. More so since covid started. Most people don't get scammed and if someone has attempted to scam them, it is easily dismissed if you are aware of how things work. You are still covered afterwards if something goes wrong which you're not if you pay cash. In this case, the OP was incredibly stupid. Please share this video or tell people about this scam. I buy and sell online and in person all the time for personal transactions and an online business and have for many years. Like you have never even used what you are talking about and are basing all your information on third party information from the people who got scammed. How about PayPal friend to friend if it hits your account are you safe ? No one pays full price off gumtree unless it's listed as a bargain price of the century. The message from "Sue" read: "Hi my partner will like to know if your listed Phone on gumtree is still on for sale? Even if the cancellation was limited to 5 days after gift card redemption, I still reckon it would dramatically hinder the scam. Nothing is scam proof, but when you use your brains and do things the way they are meant to be done, you are protected from them. Not the cost of the postage. Once the account was reported as hacked by the actual owner the payment was promptly reversed by PayPal who immediately set debt collectors on me! Maybe I should start this business 😂, yes, @funnysht: yes, very easy to dispute and win, cash only for gumtree. Almost half the people I've deal with on Gumtree and Facebook market use P2P paypal. Copyright © 2006-2021 OzBargain ABN: 26 144 073 772. That is a shame. Nothing you can do. If you are using websites like Gumtree, cash is best. Working professional with 3 kids looking for long-term rental in Ellenbrook prefer 5x2 or large 4x2 with a theatre room,shutters, air-conditioning,pool an absolute plus. @hypie: Correct. we warned the Usps about what was happening and it still went straight through there fingers. We previously moved to restrict the sale of items that were in high demand such as hand sanitisers and PPE, and will move to do the same if required. The transaction occurs via email, where the scammer says they will pay via PayPal. Not to say how much to ship it to us with insurance. Return on investment can be … It's easy to read all the stories of the people saying they got scammed but people don't tell their stories when things go fine, yet that is the overwhelming vast majority of all transactions. Mobile car wash business for sale.# Due to scams and time wasters I do not respond on Gumtree mail Please pick up the phone and contact me if you are interested #The opportunities are endless and we build to your requirements. Ruthless. It doesn't cost $100 to send a phone from Melbourne with Australia Post. I always withdraw money from paypal straight away for this reason. I sell many unwanted goods online, as it's a great way to convert unwanted items into cash. The client contacted ReadyTechGo for our thoughts, and we played along with "Zanco", asking Zanco to send us his ID so that we can get things rolling. I know this can happen but very rare, this itself enough to raise an alarming bell. All trademarks are owned by their respective owners.OzBargain is an independent community website which has no association with nor endorsement by the respective trademark owners. If you sell on eBay, you have to be prepared to potentially lose your item. Gumtree, paying via paypal, money not received and shipping overseas!? she then imitated pay-pal again and said that she was overcharged an additional $1,000 (in total "$2,000 out of her bank account into ours"). ive been to so many places trying to find out how i could try get my hard earned cash back but no one can help, what do you think i can do". Inspect the goods, then pay with straight transfers as a gift. A Gumtree seller has warned people about the dangers of fake bank notes after he was scammed out of $700. If you have a SIM only plan, then good luck getting the IMEI blocked by any provider here once you find your device stolen. Paypals entire business is transactions. Close. We also suggest taking someone with you to meet your buyer/seller. Can be disputed but no idea what the success rate was. How hard would it be for Apple to cancel some gift cards and reverse the electronic transactions putting the kibosh on these scams? Someone on /r/Melbourne was scammed on Gumtree with counterfeit cash last week. Long story short, I was selling a macbook air and this scammer contacted me and told me 'she' had sent payment through. I have never heard good news (after) from people I know who were similarly scammed. The person "buying" the phone said they sent the money to the OPs paypal and showed a photoshopped image. Did it affect your credit ratings ? @Freezies: It is NOT 100% safe at all. Indeed, as one of Australia’s favourite places to sell and buy stuff, Gumtree is aware of these things. While most community members have a positive experience, on occasion bad seeds do target Gumtree users. Hopefully you will be more suspicious of person-to-person online transactions in future. Then always keep proof for yourself. if we have proof could you get the uspis to pursue the case? There are multiple points that you should see that there is an issue. I mulled over it, and re-read her email. Going to be a walk in the park for these guys. Could he not have just done a PayPal invoice and opted in for buyer protection? Its an expensive mistake and lesson to learn but you'll never make it again. I had a client this week who listed their Caravan on Gumtree, and straight away, received a text message asking them if the caravan was available, the condition of the caravan and to email them the details with the best price (sound familiar?). On Gumtree’s scam help page, they said: “An SMS message from a potential buyer asking you to respond on email could be a scam. ). we told her that we had no money to give, but there was no answer to that question. What if many people got scammed and asked for this? That Paypal is somehow the only one that could be hacked or stolen? Your telco will only block the SIM card from further misuse until you transfer the number out to another SIM card. The way I see it if a buyers paypal account was "hacked", that is paypal's problem and lack of control, they absorb the cost of their refund scheme. All these things can be prevented yet there are people who still fall victim to the common tactics then cry foul and blame paypal. Basically you need to prove online delivery for paypal protection on a collection item you dont get … I am already in talks with the courier that will handle the pick-up and delivery. Jump to page: Results 1 to 10 of 15 Thread: WARNING: I was Scammed on Gumtree. You literally fell for every obvious trick in the book while also avoiding all common sense. ", "We also encourage anyone who thinks they have come across anything suspicious or concerning to report it to us using the ‘report ad’ function or 24/7 live chat. @Freezies: If you think PayPal is 100% safe (or even 95% safe), you are waiting in the queue to be scammed. Opinions/advice needed. You can't just hack or steal a paypal account. You can report it to https://www.scamwatch.gov.au. but we think she sold a phone like mine and was sending her customer my phone over in Texas, As soon as we sent my phone we found out the transaction was a fake and that we needed to get the phone back. so if all went well for her she would have a phone and an additional $1,000 to go with it. PayPal is dodgy as shit. It's paypal, you are 50-50 screwed no matter how you do it with them if you come across a scammer. As far as I know, Australia Post never straight away send stuff overseas straight away (It would take a few days before products leave Australia for obvious bulk-posting reason). If you have an iOS device (which supports activation lock), then you are in luck as long you didn't forget to setup "Find My iPhone" correctly. Yes in this instance it was a facepalm easy scam due to him not checking, but even if he had the money there are multiple ways he could have lost out. Either cash or a bank cheque that we go to the bank together to deposit or alternatively you can transfer the money while we are at the branch together. @wozz: Yeah, there are variants of every type of scam that have always been around which grow and change as technology develops. We also recommend everyone using Gumtree should visit our Help section for tips on how to have a safe and successful experience and to be vigilant when using any online marketplace.”. The one time I had a return, I filmed myself opening the package. @SBOB: Third party doesn't cost 1k though, @Jackson: It can if you're 18 and bought a stupid car, Wow, so this kind if scam still works. @HarrisonA: Greed overcome you. Worth $550 max as new. It is considered a gift and is a one time instant transaction that can't be disputed or charged back. It is why everyone says Gumtree is CASH ONLY. There are multiple ways of getting scammed with everything no matter what payment method you use, but you can only get scammed if you don't cover yourself. Guess this is how these scammers keep going there is always someone out there to con, Sorry Op i have a 17 year old, you didn't have a parent to give you advice before? In the news article from ABC News, scammers were contacting people who were trying to sell their cars. Take it as a life lesson. o'well at least i have something to help me remember the big loss to prevent me doing it again. The OP got scammed in the dumbest of way because they were greedy and stupid. Posted by 4 hours ago. Banks, digital payments and credit card companies can't cover you if you stray outside of protection laws either and they can't protect you from your own mistakes. Do you know how many people get robbed of their cash on gumtree and Facebook market etc? Re: Is this a Paypal Scam on Gumtree I HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO ME Great! They all are, but like all things, the only way this happens is when someone gets a hold of someone elses password, or pin or CC number etc. I agree with your statement. I was really, really close to being scammed yesterday on Gumtree, which makes me sound like a huge moron. I was pleasantly surprised to receive an enquiry within an hour of listing the iPhone 8. Claire Cobbledick, GM of Gumtree South Africa says that while prevention is better than cure, victims who find themselves out of pocket due to an online scam should report the incident immediately. There are scammers and pricks everywhere. At least you have a good attitude about it. means it could have been 'worse' as in they could have lost more than $1k….. @JimmyF: "means it could have been 'worse' as in they could have lost more than $1k…..". thought you can only block it in Australia? OMG How many alarm bells do you need? The transaction occurs via email, where the scammer says they will pay via PayPal. Many people do. This is just the beginning.”. This scam has been around for years and still people fall for it. It's 100% safe even for idiots as it is an instant transfer, but for the last time, there was never any paypal transaction involved. Gumtree is face to face in the public place cash only, yes, but i think Charlotte actually lives in Australia somewhere and was selling my phone to her customer in Texas so that the address she gave me would have only lead to her customer. Its safest to have the money in your hand. @gromit: The ADF even. Paypal have nothing to do with it. Before I go on, I should point out that it isn’t Gumtree trying to scam anyone. if it is true, then you have learned a basic lesson. If you know the phone's imei, get it blocked in as many countries as possible. Australia Post won't do a thing. sallyjenese@gmail.com Email her directly Thx". I'm not trying to make you feel bad, but sending a $1000 item overseas before your parents paypal account even showed money was received is just insane. But still, the scheme was actually pretty advanced and interesting in hindsight. Not sure why you are getting negged. Things like this happened long before ebay and Paypal came about. Paypal payment - it should be instant except it is a cheque. @DoctorCalculon: That's not an IMEI block though. They send money to a person online for the bond, and they wait for the keys to arrive but they never arrive. Obviously wrong. Scammed on Gumtree? Apple takes a cut of every sale in the app store. by the time we found out she was a scammer, and we had just posted the phone. Errr did you not read the entire sentence. Being my first gumtree purchase, I was unaware of the scamming that goes on. straight away and told them about the incident and what we wanted to happen, they then told us that they were going to let it reach Chicago and then turn it around then, from one thing after the other it got closer to it destination and then it said it was delivered. A transaction should always be made face-to-face with the buyer and seller, with payment made once the goods have been inspected or the services completed. Excited, I emailed sallyjenese@gmail.com right away, to let her know that the phone was still available. This scam was a little complicated but by letting them pay via paypal you left yourself open to this simplest of scams. It's not the devs they're looking after. 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